Wednesday, June 30, 2010

Dabbling in degenerates

Someone on Facebook asked: “Do you find that Chassidish people on Facebook tend to be just perverts, or do they just lack the proper skill and approach?

As Rabbi Pinky would say, 'es iz an eppis tiefe shailah, b'emmes!

My first comment was "More perverted than anybody else? Or normal? I have met far fewer pervertim from a chossidische background on the internet than from any other group. But I don't know enough about perverts to judge."

Strictly speaking, that last assertion isn't true at all. I know plenty of perverts. Almost all schoolboys qualify, and so do most adult men. San Francisco is a hospitable environment for twisted sexualities of all kinds.
Half of the population is male. There's your statistical sample right there.

I just haven't met any Jewish perverts yet - there aren't enough Jews in SF to render them common.
I hope they have a sense of humor, or perhaps a cheerfulness about whatever zesty depravity they would like to get up to. That would be nice.

Most perverts, however, are drably predictable.

Looks away when an attractive or immodestly dressed woman approaches, then stares intently at her rear after she has passed. That tingling feeling up and down your spine? That's the ectoplasm from his gaze, touching you where you don't want to be touched. That sudden chill? His eyes have ripped off your blouse and bra from two blocks away. Not bold enough to even scope you out with a sideways glance, never the less fiendishly obsessed. You've seen him do it to other girls.
He'd be a serial killer if he weren't so bland.

Standard issue troll, who tries to cop a feel on a crowded bus, or undresses you with his eyes. Most likely to make a crude proposition, then denies having done so if you accuse him. He is probably married to a child-woman twenty years his junior. Does sales or marketing for a living. Can be sidetracked entirely by mentioning sports - when he's going on about the Lakers, he won't even notice you escaping.

A fossilized noodge, so delighted at sitting next to a young girl on the bus he just can't keep his eyes off her. Has a thing for knees. Radiates body heat, smells of second hand clothing. Creepy, but mostly harmless. Unless you are really cute.

Talkative neurotic. You try and try to ignore him, but he just cannot stop yacking about stuff that is of no interest whatsoever! Looks you straight in the eye so as not to betray that he has already mentally undressed and violated you repeatedly. Acts like a complete gentleman, but in his imagination he is doing stuff with a fantasy version of you and a tarpaulin, tight ribbons, handcuffs, mayonaise, and frilly black lingerie. Or worse.
Once you get home, you imagine something similar - same tarpaulin.
But there's an empty bucket, a pair of pliers, and a baseball bat, instead of the jar of mayonnaise.

Desperate middle-aged dilwad with a sportscar. Doesn't want sex, just wants to be seen as (still) sexual. Attracted to stacked blondes or hot dragonlady vixens, they are the perfect accessory. Flat-chested Chinese girls do NOT interest him. Can actually hold a conversation, though his eyes keep wandering off to the side like he has a nervous tic.

Serious fetishist. One of his things is the cute little Asian creampuff with a winsome face and little girl mannerisms. He's so desperate that he will even date Philippinas - all he cares about is the type, not the personality. If she coos and pouts he'll cream in his boxers. Conversationally, he's a disaster - once he catches your eye (from two blocks away!!!), he'll ask about your family, your sisters, your cellphone, your e-mail address, what fun and unique South-East Asian language do you speak (oh wow, what a coincidence, he speaks it too!) and do you like steak? Flowers? Spanking?

On the football team, all raging hormones and splendid macho muscles, and boy does he have an ego. All the girls want him, what's wrong with you? He'll even ignore the fact that you have glasses and no boobs, you should be flattered! Sometimes he just likes Asian chicks, they're not as demanding as blondes; if you don't leap at the opportunity now, you'll just be frustrated later, too bad, bitch.
When he's in college, he's going to use date-rape drugs.

Highschool boy. Really, that's all there is to it. Even at fifty years old.
So frustrated, despite visiting the powder room twelve times a day, that he just HAS to tell you that you're a very nice intelligent person, NOT like the other girls, and really cute, he doesn't mind small, really! Spoils everything by looking at every set of boobs that passes by, even if they're eighty years old.
No attention span. Sweats. Sometimes blinks. Resembles a lizard.

Captivated by flat chests. You catch him staring at you at the bus-stop. The next day he's there again at EXACTLY the same time. Feigning a friendly disinterest, he'll try to start a conversation about the weather. Or the pigeons. Or how old you are. By the fourth day you get on at a later stop. On the fifth day he's there too.
The sixth day you take a different bus.

Boisterous and no morals. What you look like isn't nearly as important as the fact that you are breathing. Likes everything he sees, as long as it has curves and can walk on it's own. A cheerful and friendly vulgarian, but you should NEVER tell him your name - he'll remember it the next time he sees you, two years later, when you are with all your relatives in the middle of Chinatown. You can't remember him from Adam at that point, and your mom is frowning - worthless girl, why are you hanging around with white boys?

It's a mine field out there.

If you've ever wondered why girls spend a lot of time in the shower, now you know. It's you. We're trying to wash you out of our minds.


But then there's also this dirty-minded fellow:

Despite his bluster, he really isn't interested in any other women than the one he's already caught. Unless they rub themselves all over with fine tobacco and lie wiggling naked on a bed of matured flue-cured ribbon, smoking a cigar.
But even then he probably wouldn't risk it.
The only danger you would run around him is cancer from the second hand smoke - yeah, he's probably all red eyes and heavy breathing, but that's only from the burning leaves.
No sotah here, folks, just keep moving along.


Sunday, June 27, 2010

Jews, leave Amsterdam!

More and more Dutch Jews are leaving the country of their birth for a safe haven elsewhere. That, in short, is the message of an article by Charles Sanders in the Telegraaf newspaper and a related piece by Jeroen Langelaar in Elsevier magazine in the Netherlands. This per ATBOTH at Pro-Israel Bay Bloggers.

" ... The number of incident-complaints rose last year by 55% "

This statement, by reader Luuk in Groningen, is indicative of attitudes among the Dutch: "Better the Jewish interest groups should criticise their home country Israel over the discrimination of Palestinians. No wonder that more and more people have started despising Jews"( 'Laat de Joodse belangenorganisatie's hun thuisland Israël maar eens op de vingers tikken over de discriminatie van Palestijnen. Geen wonder dat er steeds meer mensen een hekel krijgen aan Joden' ).
Note here the combination of several ideas: Jews are foreigners in the Netherlands (where they have been for centuries), Jews are to blame for what Israel does, Jews in Europe belong in Israel but also don't belong in Israel because it belongs to the Palestinians (!), and it is both natural and good to despise Jews.


We do not hold Palestinian Americans responsible for the terrorism committed by their cousins, nor for the murderous attitudes expressed in the Palestinian media.

We do not hold Irish Americans responsible for the outrages done in their name by the murderers of the IRA.

We do not hold Russian Americans responsible for the slaughter of Chechen civilians.

" ... it is both natural and good to despise Jews "

But the Dutch - the most "tolerant" tribe on the planet, nota bene! - hold Jews responsible for things of which they disapprove.

Several readers postulated that Amsterdam Jews should loudly demonstrate against Israel and the misbehavior of their own people.
If they didn't do so, then they deserved to be hated and discriminated.


If this is the best that Europe can offer, the bastion of liberal democratic values, then Europe is done for. Clearly they have reverted to the barbarism and bigotries of the past.

It isn't only the Dutch.

The largest trade union in Britain has endorsed the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement, in the spirit of International anti-Semitism now improved by politically correct smarm.

The Swedes refuse to load or unload Israeli ships - Scandinavians are ever sanctimonious, and it is comfortable to have one bigotry that everyone can agree on.

The French have yielded control of many of their urban areas to the unholy alliance of socialists and Jew-hating immigrants, the Turks sponsor terrorism and actively share NATO secrets with Syria and Iran, the Pakistanis support murderous extremists, and the Indonesians volunteer for Jihad.

At the root of much of this is the politically correct Jew-hate so common and fashionable in Europe, the Third World, United Nations Headquarters, and Berkeley.

There is nothing that Europe can teach us, and it is time we acknowledged that fact. Here in the United States things may not be perfect - but lord save us if we import anymore European ideas. We're far better off importing Jews.


Wednesday, June 23, 2010

Quoting the Rimanover

Fellow bloggers Atboth and the Bray of Fundie both want this link posted:

The short and brutal version of that post is: If what you do isn't right, it affects everything you do. The detraction is greater than the mere act itself.

The long form is here.

As was to be expected, there's an entire list of baffling locutions. I'm getting used to people not using the queens English on the internet.

Here's what I think those words mean:

Agra D'Pirka = A book; maybe the name means 'fragments from chapters'. I don't know. I think the title is in Aramaic.
Avodah = Service. Faithful behaviour.
Bais Yaakov = House of Jacob; a girls school.
Bren = Fire. A burning. What Ada and Van felt in a book by Nabokov. Here it is connected to Bais Yakov girls, and totally clean.
Debritziner Rov = The rabbi from Debrecen.
Dinover = Biala or Munkatch Rabbinic dynasty - the internet search gave confusing answers.
Havdala = What keeps people like me from ever even thinking of becoming Jews.
Hechsher Tzedek = A kosher marking of goodness - the meat is slaughtered accoring to Jewish law, the workers are treated according to high ethical standards, and this is reliable certified.
Kashrus = Kosherness of food. No pork, no shrimp, no lobster, and a whole bunch of rules about how meat can be slaughtered and other things.
Khalav stam = Plain milk.
Khazal = The wise ancients, the sages of the past, excluding Confucius, Mencius, Lao Tze, and Sun tze.
Middos = Personal habits and character traits.
Mitzvos = Commandments; how one is supposed to act, and things one is obliged to do.
Ohr HaChaim HaQadosh = Rabbi Chaim Ben-Attar of Morocco, 1696-1743.
Orthoprax = Of correct behavior, not necessarily of correct beliefs.
OTD = Off The Derech (no longer on a straight and narrow Jewish path).
Ponzi scheme = Per Wikipedia: A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to separate investors from their own money or money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from any actual profit earned.
Qedusha = Sanctity
Rimanov = From Wikipedia: "Rimanov is a town of 3,585 inhabitants (02.06.2009) in Poland's Subcarpathian Voivodeship. It is a capital of a separate commune within the powiat of Krosno."
Rimanover = From Wikipedia: "Rabbi Menachem Mendel of Rimanov (1745–1815) was a Hasidic Rebbe and author. Born in Neustadt, he was introduced to Hasidut at the age of 11 when he met Dovber of Mezeritch. He was taught by Elimelech of Lizhensk and Shmelke of Nikolsburg, and was the teacher of Naftali of Ropshitz and Rabbi Tzvi Elimelech of Dinov.
As one of the three principal disciples of Elimelech of Lizhensk, he was an important Hasidic leader in Poland. He is known for his asceticism and mystical support for Napoleon, whose wars he identified with the battles of Gog and Magog."
Shidduch = Marriage
Tolaim = Insect infestation.
Tumah = Impurity, pollution.
Yeshiva = Literally, a squat. Figuratively and usually, a Jewish school.
Yiras Shomayim = Fear of Heaven.

What posts like this really illustrate is a rich life within some very narrow confines.
Sometimes I wonder of how much practical application such specialized knowledge and vocabulary is - I will probably have no cause to quote 'der Rimanover', and my relatives would look askance if I even mentioned him ('who ... is that kwailo, and WHY do you know him?!?') - but on the other hand, I'm starting to figure out how the Orthodox subculture works.
Which is quite as interesting a subject as any.

Several people have commented on that post, some to greater point than others.

I particularly like the sharpness of Midianite Manna, who in response to one such wrote:
"Here in hippie-town, in my liberal Jewish shul, I occasionally forget that there are venomous attitudes out there being propped up by willful misinterpretations of halacha. Or maybe that's unfair. Maybe the people spouting this nonsense are simply unthinking sheep who really never questioned what their bigoted rabbis told them.

Thank you, Mr. Bigot, for renewing my commitment to fostering strong, healthy, intelligent, and compassionate leadership among Jewish girls. "

You go, woman person!


Friday, June 18, 2010

Help Matt Fenster - register your bones

Fellow blogger Chaim Grossferstant ( ) has requested other bloggers to put up a Public Service Announcement for Matt Fenster, who may not live if no bone marrow donor can be found.

Matt Fenster has acute myelogenous leukemia.

Now, why should I care?
Who is Matt Fenster to me?

The better question is, why shouldn't I care? Can I really say that I'll do something good someday, when I am old and finally have time? Perhaps I will not grow old, and will never have time - and if I do not do what I can now, when will I do it? And if I do not do it, who will?

The odds of finding a match are slim because the donor has to equal a very specific profile and be of a similar ethnic background. Matches can be determined with a simple swab test of the inner cheek.

Go to:

If I did NOT call your attention to Matt Fenster, NOW that I know who he is and what is needed, it would make this world a little colder and darker.
If you register as a potential bone marrow donor for Matt Fenster, the world will be a little brighter.

We cannot make the world perfect - but we can make it better.

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Have a "git shabbos", Chaim.


Wednesday, June 16, 2010

Pot, seduction, and call me uncle!

The most dangerous phrase around the school playground is “come here little girl, would you like some candy?”
From what I’ve heard, however, it was a rather old fashioned lure.
Creeps, nowadays, don’t use candy.

They use pot.

My uncle Benedict recently offered me his precious pot, on "certain" conditions .........

Let me back up.
Old uncle Benny, who lives in sin with a shy white woman, specifically offered me his POT......,
of Things Past.
By Marcel Proust.

What he will give me, if I do so, is a lovely Yee-heng teapot (宜興茶壺 or 紫砂茶壺 Yee-heng/Tzee-sa tsa woo), circa Haam Fung Emperor (咸豐帝 1831 – 1861).
It is shaped like a little round pumpkin, with vine and leaves decorating the outside, a thick twisted branch forming the handle, another forming the spout. It is exceeeeeeeedingly desirable! The fragrance of generations of use adheres to it, a faint perfume wafts from the inside, and the outside is speckled and brindled from years of tea cascading down the sides at secondary filling.

[Gungfoo tsa (工夫茶 kungfu Tea): A small teapot is filled more than half full of prize leaves. Hot water (not boiling!!!) is poured in to overflowing, the lid is put on, after scarcely half a minute the water is poured out; this is the rinsing of the leaves.
Then more hot water is added, again to oveflowing, and after a minute decanted into tiny cups, or, if you are alone, a shallow bowl, and drunk. Each subsequent steeping is longer, and has a different flavor. With
Oolong (烏龍)or Woo-Yee (武夷) style teas, up to six steepings can be had. For solitary use, an even smaller pot than normal is best - you will nevertheless end up zipped to the tits and reading till three in the morning. It is very delicious.
Snobs and Taiwanese make a very big hoopla over it. The teapot, after years of use, acquires flavor and patina. Uncle Benedict has several small pots, in various shapes. I like it with Lok On (六安茶) style leaves from Kwantung.]

I've loved this pot since I was five.

À La Recherche du Temps Perdu is about a sensitive young man and what goes on inside his head. It is considered "the definitive Modern novel by many scholars".

It is four very thick volumes.

I am NOT fond of Madeleines!

And sensitive young men give me the screaming willies.

I never should have told the old cheese that I had read Gibbon! Suetonius was my downfall, it was him that lead me astray; the ancient Roman seduced me with glib words, and Benny was delighted to hear about it.
I can only plead naievete, I did NOT know that I was encouraging the old dear.

Really, I should've simply read Lord of the Rings. Followed Frodo in his preposterous adventures. Dreamt of dragons, elves, hobbits...... ick poo!
Ick poo, ick poo, ick poo!!!

Still, it is a beautiful teapot and I so very much want to have it. I wonder if there's any deal I can make with the old guy.
The words 'Faustian Bargain' come to mind.

I may just have to bite the bullet. Uncle Benedict is a stubborn old scholast. And I've got all summer.


Sunday, June 13, 2010


A report has been published that squarely assigns blame for the imbroglio in Afghanistan on the Pakistanis. This should come as no surprise to anyone who has studied Pakistan's involvement in the Afghan mess - for over a generation the ISI and other Pakistani groups have been heavily involved in every foul deed in the region.

Pakistani intelligence gives funding, training and sanctuary to the Afghan Taliban on a scale much larger than previously thought
End quote.


Support for the Afghan Taliban was "official ISI policy", the London School of Economics (LSE) authors suggest.
Pakistan's military denied the claims.
A spokesman said the allegations were "rubbish" and part of a malicious campaign against the country's military and security agencies.

End quote.

This, too, is typical of Pakistanis - like the Arabs, they disavow all responsibility and deny all involvement; someone else is ALWAYS to blame, usually in an imagined plot against them. Pakistan is ever rife with conspiracy theories featuring the CIA, Jews, Americans, and the Angrezi-log. Reality playes no part in the fevered Paki imagination.

"This goes far beyond just limited, or occasional support. This is very significant levels of support being provided by the ISI. We're also saying this is official policy of that agency, and we're saying that it is very extensive. It is both at an operational level, and at a strategic level, right at the senior leadership of the Taliban movement."
------Harvard analyst Matt Waldman

In other words, constant support from the Pakistani government, through its agencies, at multiple levels and from multiple departments, to many if not most facets of the Taliban organizational structure and to a number of Taliban actions and campaigns.
Plainly put: the Pakistanis are accessories to the deaths of American troops and American friends and allies - there is blood on Pakistan's hands.

"The Taliban largely depend on funding from the ISI and groups in Gulf countries" --- "Pakistan appears to be playing a double-game of astonishing magnitude."
End quote.

Given that the ISI is also still a major player in the drug trade as well as crime syndicates in the Gulf, this is not surprising. Pakistanis have always put personal gain ahead of clean government, ethical considerations, and honest achievement.

Last week Afghan intelligence chief Amrullah Saleh resigned, saying he had become an obstacle to plans to talk to the Taliban. Mr Saleh told Reuters news agency a day after quitting that the ISI was "part of the landscape of destruction" in Afghanistan and accused Pakistan of sheltering Taliban leaders in safe houses.
End quote.

As they still do for AlQaeda functionaries and other supra-local terrorist groups.

"Without a change in Pakistani behaviour it will be difficult if not impossible for international forces and the Afghan government to make progress against the insurgency"
End quote.

Without bombing Islamabad and destroying the governmental-terrorist infrastructure that characterizes the Pakistani state, changing Pakistani behaviour might be a tad hard.
At the very least, targeted assassination of Pakistani officials and members of parliament should be not only considered, but aggressively put into practice. If the world does not want another wave of terror and regional destabilization by those narco-vakils, Pakistan should be reduced to a less-than-third-world power. It would be no loss; they are already a dysfunctional society, and a pathetic excuse for a nation.

The war needs to be fought in Pakistan as well as Afghanistan. We have no allies there, only friends of convenience, saboteurs, and cowards.


Thursday, June 10, 2010


On June 9th, 2010, San Francisco City Supervisors John Avalos, David Campos, Chris Daly and Sophie Maxwell introduced a resolution savagely condemning Israel’s interdiction of the Gaza Flotilla, and calling for President Obama to work to end the "siege on Gaza".

It's up for a vote by the board next week:
Tuesday June 15th, 2PM - 4PM.

Meddling in international affairs is typical of San Francisco.
But if San Francisco is going to rampage all over the purview of the US State Department, surely the SF Board of Supervisors should be aware that there might be consequences?

As a future voter in David Chiu's district, I have an interest in seeing him do the right thing.

Here's the contact data of our supervisors.
If you call them, be polite to the phone-staff and MAKE SURE that they will take the message.

David Chiu
Board President: District 3 - North Beach, Chinatown, Telegraph Hill, Russian Hill, Polk Street, Nob Hill, Union Square, Financial District, Barbary Coast and Fisherman's Wharf
(415) 554-7450 - Voice
(415) 554-7454 - Fax

Eric Mar
District 1 - Richmond
(415) 554-7410 - Voice
(415) 554-7415 - Fax

Michela Alioto-Pier
District 2 - Marina
(415) 554-7752 - Voice
(415) 554-7843 - Fax

Carmen Chu
District 4 - Sunset
Voice: (415) 554-7460
Fax: (415) 554-7432

Ross Mirkarimi
District 5 - Cole Valley, Lower Haight, Western Addition, Haight-Ashbury, parts of Inner Sunset
(415) 554-7630 - Voice
(415) 554-7634 - Fax

Chris Daly [DARK SIDE]
District 6 - South of Market, Tenderloin, North Mission, South Beach & Treasure Island
(415) 554-7970 - Voice
(415) 554-7974 - Fax

Sean Elsbernd
District 7 - Lake Merced, Twin Peaks, Diamond Heights, Outer Sunset
(415) 554-6516 - Voice
(415) 554-6546 - Fax

Bevan Dufty
District 8 - Noe Valley, The Castro, Glen Park, Diamond Heights, Duboce Triangle, Dolores Park & San Jose / Guerrero, and Buena Vista Heights
(415) 554-6968 - Voice
(415) 554-6909 - Fax
[No e-mail - possibly a Luddite]

David Campos [DARK SIDE]
District 9 - Mission, Bernal Heights and Portola neighborhoods
(415) 554-5144 - voice
(415) 554-6255 - fax

Sophie Maxwell [DARK SIDE]
District 10 - Potrero Hill, Bayview-Hunters Point, Visitacion Valley, Portola/Silver Terrace, Dogpatch, Little Hollywood, and Portola districts
(415) 554-7670 - Voice
(415) 554-7674 - Fax

John Avalos [DARK SIDE]
District 11 - Excelsior, Crocker-Amazon, Ingleside, Merced Heights, Ocean View, Balboa Park
(415) 554-6975 - Voice
(415) 554-6979 - Fax

If you send e-mails, it would be a good idea to courtesy copy Mayor Gavin Newsom

Mayor Gavin Newsom
City Hall, Room 200
1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place
San Francisco, CA 94102

Telephone: (415) 554-6141
Fax: (415) 554-6160

As well as Senator Dianne Feinstein.

And Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.

Just let them know what the kids at home are up to.


If you're from out of town, the San Francisco Convention and Visitors Bureau is also mighty keen to hear from you.

Write them at:
San Francisco Convention and Visitors Bureau - Business Office
201 Third Street, Suite 900, San Francisco, CA 94103-3185.
Public Relations:
Convention Sales:
Voice: 415-974-6900 Fax: 415-227-2602

Do please let them know how San Francisco's foreign politics will affect your travel plans.

They will be quite fascinated.


Crossposted here:

Thursday, June 3, 2010


San Francisco, June 3, 2010.
Anarcho-Realist Press Services.

A friend forwarded a short text about the Turks from a blogger on the East Coast, who, I confess, I normally prefer not to read - his opinions are a bit too strident for my taste. But this is a time of stridency, and what Sultan Knish wrote is spot on. Yes, it's mean-spirited, vituperative, and venomous. But still, spot on. Eloquent, and bitchily to the point.


"You talk about stolen land, when your entire country is stolen land, from Cyprus to Istanbul. Your regime is a racist illegitimate entity based on the oppression of the Kurds, the Armenians, the Assyrians, the Circassians and numerous others. You went directly from being Imperialists to Fascists to Islamists, a truly dubious achievement for any nation. Your history is filled with slavery, ethnic cleansing, genocide and invasion. And that's just in the last century alone. If you had any sanity or shame, you would dig a hole, crawl into it, and hope that no one mentions words like "Minority Rights" or "Territorial Legitimacy" in your presence, instead of trying to use them as a club against a nation whose national history predates yours by thousands of years. We had kingdoms and a civilization that changed the world, back when your ancestors were still trying to decide whether to eat the sheep or rape it."

Read the rest of it HERE!

Full link:


The title of this blog post was specifically (and provocatively) chosen to attract the attention of search engines. I have been advised that the primary subject should occur in the title, in order to make it more visible.

Turkish food is far better than the mediocre slop that Arabs normally serve. That's still not enough to justify their existence, though. They are a nasty race.
Arabs, on the whole, have better manners than the Turks - except when they're in a foaming rage (rabies seems a frequent emotional state among them) - but that, too, like Turkish cuisine, is just not enough.

Both the Arabs and the Turks are perpetually involved in brutal crimes against women; many of those crimes involve Asian women. The Philippina housemaids in the Gulf and Lebanon are treated like slaves and frequently raped and brutalized, the Turks in Europe are heavily involved in selling unwilling women to brothels, and other aspects of the prostitution industry.
Both the Arabs and the Turks believe in honor killings, wife-beating, and pedophilia (often called 'marriage' in their part of the world).

Arabs and Turks have a fetish for blondes - I'm not sure whether that makes them stupid, rednecks, or just fetishists. It's rather creepy.
And it shows that they think lof women as nothing more than objects.

Atboth advises me to also use the word 'pestilential' in this post. I have now done so. Not as an explicit description of the Turks (and Arabs), but as an implicit quality.